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Sunday, December 11, 2011
Marriage - What is going on...
Under the section entitled Married Love, as the Catholic Church views it, "In the light of these facts the characteristic features and exigencies of married love are clearly indicated, and it is of the highest importance to evaluate them exactly"(Paragraph 9). The first paragraph ends with "evaluate them exactly," meaning that the following concepts of marriage need to be examined and followed through exactly how they were meant to be. The proceeding 4 paragraphs explain exactly what love it, who it is between and how married love should be conducted. In the second paragraph it states that love is, "a compound of sense and spirit. It is not, then, merely a question of natural instinct or emotional drive... (love is) an act of the free will." This quote expresses the concept that love is a choice we make (or who we love is a choice) but our sense and spirits are both a part of the determining choices people weigh out before they get married. The following paragraphs explain that love is, "very special form of personal friendship," and "faithful and exclusive of all other, and this until death," and that "Children are really the supreme gift of marriage." Ideas in society are that best friends always end up getting married and in the first quote from the previous sentence that what it basically states. The second quote is a common concept because of how often in movies vows are exchanged where the characters say "'till death do us part" which is what the second quote in the most recent sentence. The last point that is made in the married love section pertains to offspring which many times society portrays a couple trying to have children and that really makes there family and life "perfect." The main issue that stems from this idea of married love is that it does not allow same-sex marriages. These are the laws of the Catholic church, it states in the beginning of this section that the concepts laid out here need to be evaluated and carried out exactly the way they were intended. In no part of the section does it state that same-sex marriage will be allowed in the church, it only states that it will be between a man and a women. It is repeated over and over again, man and women. Certainly some of these ideas can be played out in a same sex marriage such as, being best friends, faith and love until death, and the free-will of love; however, the "supreme gift of marriage" (children) can not be made by people of the same sex. (I didn't say they couldn't be parents or have children in there lives) They just cannot bear children that they produced together sexually, it is not possible. The Catholic Church views marriage in a specific way; it is there way and there law and they go by their interpretation of the bible which is that only a man and a women should be together. This brings up so much controversy, but should it? Our political view separates church and state, which means that the government cannot interfere with religions and vice versa. The laws for each religion differs but this is the law of the Catholic Church, it is there belief system and it is how they run things, it is a sin to be with anyone sexually before marriage and it is a sin to be with the person of the same sex in general. The Catholic Church doesn't need to argue its point, this is how they have interpreted the bible and these laws for them have not changed; they don't need to argue there point it is the laws they try to abide to. The consequences of the Catholic Church following their set of laws is that they are viewed as "bad Christians" for not letting people in love get married, they turn a certain demographic off from Christianity (homosexuals or people who believe in same sex marriage), and they are viewed as judgmental. In society today where the young generation is turning away form religion and going towards spirituality young people are much more open-minded to homosexuality and any option different then male-female marriage; so the Catholic Church has a bad connotation with it. The consequences are bad but the argument of the Catholic Church hasn't changed for a long time, it is a belief system. They won't let same-sex couples get married in churches; which I understand, what is hard for me to understand is why the government doesn't give the same rights to all couples (a bit off topic but I needed to say it).
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I must disagree with one point in your argument. The controversy over how the church defines marriage DOES matter. The church and state were separated in America so the church could not overstep its boundaries as it had done in history past (Rome, England, France, pretty much all of Europe fought over religion) and that no matter what religion, everyone had their opinions valued. However, the relationship between the two have been stressed to say the least. Religion can't be contained and separated from the state because people run the state and some people are religious and can not simply "turn off" religion as soon as they walk into congress. The church, although open to believe and preach whatever they wish, will always try to influence politics, even indirectly through the values held of those making the decisions. In the same way, the state is indirectly putting pressure on the church. For example, if same-sex marriage is passed in all states, it puts a kind of pressure on the church to conform to the 'general view' of the population. Alas, we can say that the state and church are separated, but in reality, as long as both exist, they can not exist in separate spheres.
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